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We allow both RP before Combat and Attack on Sight. However '''all''' player versus player combat requires significant and satisfying role-play. "Role-played before combat" requires OOC agreement before intiating PvP. "Role-play after combat" requires a minimum of two hours of role-play after the fact.  Role-play reasons must be within known standards for Gor. Running is a valid cause to initiate attack on sight PvP.<includeonly> [[PvP Combat (Rules) |<Read More>]] </includeonly><noinclude>[[category:TOC]][[category:Rules]]
'''Updated 12/4/23:''' We require RP before Combat and '''all''' player versus player combat requires significant and satisfying role-play. "Role-played before combat" means we requires OOC agreement before initiating PvP.  Role-play reasons must be within known standards for Gor. '''Exception:''' Running is a valid cause to initiate attack on sight PvP.<includeonly> [[PvP Combat (Rules) |<Read More>]] </includeonly><noinclude>[[category:TOC]][[category:Rules]]


=Rules in Detail=
=Rules in Detail=
==Role-play before Combat==
 
*'''Significant and satisfying role-play''' is required. That means a reasonable exchange of posts. Less then three exchanges of post is cause for challenging a player with a lack of role-play.
*'''Significant and satisfying role-play''' is required. That means a reasonable exchange of posts. Less then three exchanges of post is cause for challenging a player with a lack of role-play.
*Once an exchange has been started and responded to, attack on sight is no longer an option unless one of the players opts to mechanically run. You can mechanically run without posting, but if you do post first then intend to run mechanically you must include the ((PVP Flee)) so its not assumed to still be RP.
*You must indicated your ooc intention to attack such as ((PvP Intent)) and then wait for an agreement such as ((PVP Accept)) or  ((PVP Surrender)).
* If the player does not mechanically run, it is assumed to still be RP before Combat.
*Your reason for attacking must be clear in your role-play post. ''Please note below the restriction on causes for those new to Gor.''
*Your reason for attacking must be clear in your role-play post. ''Please note below the restriction on causes for those new to Gor.''
*RP-1st (Roleplay before Combat) means that you must indicated your ooc intention to attack such as ((PvP Intent)) and then wait for an agreement such as ((PVP Accept)) or  ((PVP Surrender)).
*After the combat, no further role-play is required and the winner may loot the body and take off, and the looser may, if they wish, take the death and the item loss.
*OR they can continue the RP there with a helping hand (aid ally) or [[Capture (Rules)|capture role play rules]]. This is upto the mutual agreement of the players


;Running
;Running
*Running is always an option. As is being attack for running.
* Running is always an option but you can be attacked without RP if you opt to run '''mechanically'''.
*You do not need to RP before running, but once you mechanically run it is now an attack on sight situation.
* Running with RP First: If you mechanically run AFTER posting you must include the ((PVP Flee)) making it clear you are prepared for a mechanical attach to stop you.  
* Running without RP: You do not need to RP before '''mechanical''' running, but once you mechanically run it is now an attack on sight situation.
* If the player does not '''mechanically''' run, it is assumed to still be RP before Combat, and consent is still required.
 
;Refusing Capture
;Refusing Capture
*A player may if they wish opt not to be captured and instead take the mechanical death and item loss UNLESS the attacker has made it clear they are here to capture the player to enact "vengeance" for the players prior behavior.
*A player may if they wish opt not to be captured and instead take the mechanical death and item loss UNLESS the attacker has made it clear they are here to capture the player to enact "vengeance" for the players prior behavior.
*To restate, if you are being hunted down because of your own aggressive actions, you can not keep taking the death to avoid the consequences - this would be a violation of the [[:Category:Rules#Must Know | Avoiding Role-Play]] rule.
*To restate, if you are being hunted down because of your own aggressive actions, you can not keep taking the death to avoid the consequences - this would be a violation of the [[:Category:Rules#Must Know | Avoiding Role-Play]] rule.


==Attack on Sight (aka AoS, Combat before RP)==
 
*'''Significant and satisfying role-play''' is required. If you attack before role-play your role-play commitment is more significant then RP before PvP.
 
*The aggressor is required to offer at least two hours of role-play. The role-play can be any type of role-play including [[Capture (Rules)|capture role play rules]]. The aggressor may also bring you to role-play with another player. (Alts may not be used for this.)
 
*It is expected that the aggressor has the time for the role-play right away. If they do not, they should not be attacking on site.
*The victim however is NOT required to give role-play. They have the right to simply take the death and/or item loss. This is most commonly done because the player does not have the time to do the role-play.
*However the aggressor can request to continue the rp later when they are both on in some way that is mutually agreeable. But the victim is not obligated to agree.
*This is also true if the victim wins against the aggressor, they can simply kill and loot the body of their attacker and offer no further RP.


;Died before Capture
;Died before Capture

Revision as of 14:31, 4 December 2023

Updated 12/4/23: We require RP before Combat and all player versus player combat requires significant and satisfying role-play. "Role-played before combat" means we requires OOC agreement before initiating PvP. Role-play reasons must be within known standards for Gor. Exception: Running is a valid cause to initiate attack on sight PvP.

Rules in Detail

  • Significant and satisfying role-play is required. That means a reasonable exchange of posts. Less then three exchanges of post is cause for challenging a player with a lack of role-play.
  • You must indicated your ooc intention to attack such as ((PvP Intent)) and then wait for an agreement such as ((PVP Accept)) or ((PVP Surrender)).
  • Your reason for attacking must be clear in your role-play post. Please note below the restriction on causes for those new to Gor.
Running
  • Running is always an option but you can be attacked without RP if you opt to run mechanically.
  • Running with RP First: If you mechanically run AFTER posting you must include the ((PVP Flee)) making it clear you are prepared for a mechanical attach to stop you.
  • Running without RP: You do not need to RP before mechanical running, but once you mechanically run it is now an attack on sight situation.
  • If the player does not mechanically run, it is assumed to still be RP before Combat, and consent is still required.
Refusing Capture
  • A player may if they wish opt not to be captured and instead take the mechanical death and item loss UNLESS the attacker has made it clear they are here to capture the player to enact "vengeance" for the players prior behavior.
  • To restate, if you are being hunted down because of your own aggressive actions, you can not keep taking the death to avoid the consequences - this would be a violation of the Avoiding Role-Play rule.



Died before Capture
  • If for any reason the winner of the fight can not get to you BEFORE your 30 sec timer is up causing a mechanical death, and you WANT the RP. Simply message the player in GLOBAL and let them know you are returning for the RP. Go to your body, loot it, set your inventory to accessible (Shift-L or via DD) and wait for the winner to come RP you.
  • If you do not do this, then the aggressor can assume you didn't have time for the RP and opted to take the mech death and item loss.

Further Restrictions

New to Gor

  • If you are a man and new to Gor, there are two reasons for combat. Either the person is your enemy/target of honor or you are engaged in theft/capture. These are your only two options. You are obligated to make your reasons clear. Gor has a few examples of other causes for combat, however, the new to Gor role player would not know how to use them.
  • Free women, with the exception of Panthers, have no cause to attack unless in a desperate situation.
  • Panther Girls are well known to attack for theft/capture reasons.
  • Female slaves only attack the free, if ordered to by their owners.
  • Male slaves only attack to earn their freedom, or to defend their owners.

If you are new to Gor and attack for any reason, other than this, be prepared to have your role-play challenged with a moderator.

Experienced to Gorean role players

The books detail other rare causes for combat, including assassination, however, only an experienced, Gorean role player can navigate these exceptions skillfully. However, they can still be challenged, and should be prepared to respond.

Points of Courtesy

  • If you are robbing someone, and they agree to give you what you asked for, there is no need for combat.
  • If you are intending to capture somebody, and they agree to be bound, there is no need for combat.
  • If you are unsure if the attack was intended or accidental it is best to have a polite OOC dialog to see what happened - and not assume.
  • If you do not WANT the items acquired during a PvP encounter (for any reason) offer to return the items to the player.

Q & A

Can I play a mass murderer or serial killer?
No
Can I play an assassin?
At this time, no. (If you are an experienced Gorean Assassin RPer, please reach out to the Admin team.)
Does attacking a base or thralls/pets count as PvP?
First, attacking a base is more properly considered a Siege, however even intentional minor damage to a build would constitute a PvP attack and the rules here for role-play apply. Secondly, yes, an attack on a player's thralls/pets, either following a player or guarding a base, also constitutes a PvP attack and these rules would apply.
NOTE: Do not leave your pets, mounts or thralls unattended, especially where they can block the use of areas, as this is a valid reason to kill said unattended pet/mount/thrall. Further, it's a good idea to put your name or clan on the pet/mount/thrall so people CAN contact you. If you pet/mount/thrall IS killed in this manner for these reasons, you DO have the right to request the RP.
Is the clan event log considered IC knowledge?
Yes it is. It is assumed to be available knowledge to the character, likely from the local NPCs/thralls.
What if the attack was an accident?
It happens, and most of the time everyone will say no problem and handle it ooc. But they do not have to, in which case, you are responsible for the RP, as outlined here, as the agressor.
See Also
  • PvP Combat (Rules) - As of Season 3 we are only a "RP before PvP" server, read the rules.
  • Capture (Rules) - You've been captured? What are your RP rights? How long can it last, how do you escape?
  • How to Capture - Capture in our game has mechanical functionality that you are expected to use, read this guide on the mechanics, how to set them up and how to use them.
  • Mechanical Death - What does it mean if you die a mechanical death, is your character dead? Do you need to recreate your character?
  • Perma-death/Maiming (Rules) - Your character can not be killed or maimed in an unplayable way without Admin agreement. See how this works.
  • Stealing (Rules) - There are limits on what you can take after PvP. Otherwise, mechnical stealing from containers is disallowed. You may role-play stealing as long as you leave a note/clue.
  • Sieging (Rules) - The storyline has developed to the point where our basic PvP Combat rules don't work? Learn how to start this process.

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